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    Re: Seikai no Senki V novel

    Post by Almael on 10/29/2017, 1:17 pm

    Yeah, about that the russian translation of Cots is based on the Toyopop translation so it's abridged.
    In a sense the russian translation is a sub group of this project(s). Ushwood did a superb job, and continues to contribute to the community. Without doubt he is one of the biggest contributers around.

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    Post by firestorm on 10/30/2017, 5:32 pm

    Well that sucks, I remember the Tokyopop novels having more information than the anime but how much did they actually cut out?

    This weekend Ill probably have a binge reading of Ushwood's translation through google translate.

    Now just wondering when the next book will be released by Hiroyuki Morioka, Please not another near decade gap between releases.
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    Post by spoor356 on 10/31/2017, 12:41 am

    Thank you firestorm for bringing that up. I am glad to see you around as well. In any case, I am not yet dead, just was away for a while

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    Post by firestorm on 10/31/2017, 7:02 pm

    Glad to see your still active. Abhnation was the first forum I joined, that was when DSL connections first came to where I lived what a change from dial-up.

    Does anyone know if Acidstealth is going to open that new Abhnation site or is it just a practice site?
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    Post by Almael on 11/1/2017, 12:24 pm

    What new site?
    Acidstealth & AN are gone/closed for good. The old site remains as an archive for prosperity.
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    Post by mitsuki lover on 11/1/2017, 1:16 pm

    This is the first time I ever heard of a new site as well. Old rumor?

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    Post by firestorm on 11/1/2017, 5:02 pm

    Found it completely by accident,

    https://abhnation(dot)herokuapp(dot)com/

    My assumption is that he may have been planning to start a new site.
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    Post by Almael on 11/3/2017, 1:02 am

    Doubt it. It's long past the mentioned time.
    I think it was probably a fallback and or restore site for the AN repository. AN fell off the grid some years ago. Don't remember the exact year, though.
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    Post by mitsuki lover on 11/3/2017, 3:33 pm

    hmmm....Welp it now has a server not found 401 on it...so..

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    Re: Seikai no Senki V novel

    Post by lenaxia on 12/18/2017, 5:02 pm

    What would be needed to get volume 5 translated? I'm willing to throw some money at purchasing the volume if needed, or making it worth people's time.
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    Post by Almael on 12/19/2017, 3:31 pm

    Just time and effort. I've been too busy with other RL things. And because of Baronh I can't just work piece by piece. It's far more effective to work on it in long sessions. But simply put the biggest help there could be is another translator (preferable an above average). Everyone skilled enough is too busy and everyone else jumps ship.

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    Post by lenaxia on 12/21/2017, 2:52 am

    Not exactly a surprise! Surprisingly life takes up a lot of time.

    Well I can't translate but would be more than happy to put in the time and effort to edit anything you have or will have written. Especially if that would take some load off of you.

    Also if any other translators would like to help but cannot/do not want to purchase the book. I will purchase it for them, including import and shipping. Just need to know where to buy it and where to send it.

    I may not visit super often, but if there's anyone who wants to take me up on the offer, I can be reached at lenaxia-.at.-outlook-.dot.-com
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    Post by Almael on 12/22/2017, 8:35 am

    Yeah, and it seems I get busier with the years, too.
    I probably will continue soon again when time allows. No promises but keep in touch for the time being. At least for a month or two I suppose.

    Yes, I do need an editor since translating makes me biased toward keeping as much information as possible. Someone versed in fantasy novels might be a plus (regarding story telling, dialogues). I'm on the scifi part.

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    Post by lenaxia on 12/22/2017, 6:49 pm

    I believe I can help. Go ahead and send something my way to the email in my previous post. I'm traveling internationally over the next 2 weeks but I can get some samples to you to see if you like my editing style.
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    Post by Almael on 12/28/2017, 2:07 pm

    As soon as I return in a week.

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    Post by lenaxia on 1/10/2018, 12:16 am

    Went ahead and edited the Volume 4 Prologue on Baka-Tsuki https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Seikai_no_Senki:Volume4_Prologue(jp)

    My goal was readability and to match the style of the Crest of the Stars novels. Lots of tense changes, all narration should be in past tense. Tried to clear up some run on and awkward sentences. Also standardized capitalization and styling (titles and ship names).
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    Post by mitsuki lover on 1/10/2018, 2:06 pm

    Looks like a good job so far.Though I was wondering why did you use state of the art
    instead of state of the line to describe Ramaj's ship.
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    Post by Almael on 1/10/2018, 6:16 pm

    Sorry, got more busy and distracted.
    Ah, well, the tense changes have been discussed a lot. There's no reason other than skill whether a novel is written in past tense or present tense. I prefer present rather than past tense, simply because of immediate character viewpoint & situational awareness. But I suppose I'm not that good as a writer.

    Yeah, when it comes down to terms I prefer the ones that are closer to the profession in question than layman's street talk. I think state of the art is a common old way of referring to the "art" as in skill of the profession (today it's just tech). State of the line is obviously leaning on "ship of the line" used in the military but this term doesn't seem to exist. I suppose it doesn't matter in this case since it doesn't change the meaning or information.

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    Post by lenaxia on 1/11/2018, 10:33 am

    As almael pointed out, State of the Line is not an idiom that exists in English. State of the Art is an idiom dealing with product development and more commonly these days technological advancement. I worked at Intel and now at Amazon and will affirm that State of the Art is used when talking about technology. It is also used to the military to reference new technology.

    Definition: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/state_of_the_art
    Military reference: (search for "state-of-the-art") https://www.army.mil/article/1256/new_land_warrior_and_mounted_warrior_systems_digitize_the_battlefield

    As for tense changes, I chose past to specifically match the original Crest of the Stars novels. Those novels were all written in past tense and I wanted to maintain consistency.

    I believe the difference in when to use past or present depends on who is narrating. For instance if we look at the very first line of the chapter when Ramaj is speaking, that narration is done in present tense. She is speaking of her experience as it happens. However more general narration is, generally, done in past tense.

    Here is an article discussion pros and cons of present tense: http://www.writersdigest.com/online-editor/the-pros-and-cons-of-writing-a-novel-in-present-tense. While it is possible to do present tense, I don't feel it is appropriate for SnS
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    Post by Almael on 1/11/2018, 5:33 pm

    Yep, one funny fact (if I remember right, don't know if from same source as above) was that historically present tense used to be the norm but novel writers moved to past tense in the 20th century. As a result readers got used to past tense they generally feel comfortable with it more than the other way. It's really purely a matter of writing skill and feeling.
    practical articles:
    http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/litpres.html
    http://booksbywomen.org/writing-advice-past-tense-present-tense/
    https://thewritepractice.com/past-tense-vs-present-tense/
    Anyway, past tense it is.

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    Post by mitsuki lover on 1/12/2018, 4:22 pm

    Well I would still have used state of the line myself since it would have given it more of the feel of
    a non-English origin.

    Actually Twain used the past tense when he wrote for example The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.It might not have been as common back in the 19th century as in the 20th is all.

    Also is the meeting with the Hania Ambassador supposed to be in the third person from Ramaj'
    perspective?
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    Post by Almael on 1/12/2018, 6:28 pm

    Well, yes since it's basically her story telling. Japanese or asians don't make much of differentiation but in this case it's usually 3rd person.
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    Post by mitsuki lover on 1/15/2018, 4:06 pm

    Which is why it sounds so weird to us as westerners since we seldom use it as much.

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    Post by lenaxia on 1/17/2018, 10:05 pm

    I've been slowly working my way through chapter 1, probably another week or so before I finish it.

    A few places I've left editor's notes because its unclear what was actually being said
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    Post by mitsuki lover on 1/19/2018, 5:00 pm

    Glad to hear back form you. How many more pages do you have to work through to finish chapter 1?

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